73 Mustang Noob
#11
(10-11-2019, 09:20 AM)JTS71 Mach1 Wrote: Welcome !!!

Looks pretty solid for a 46 year old Mustang. As far as Not being a Mach1. Big Deal ! There were lots of little differences, but mostly appearance was the most noticeable thing. You can end up with a complete clone, or Make it your own, and drive it like you stole it! Glad to have you, tons of information, and good people here. Look around the site and enjoy.

JTS

Thanks man, im not too big on making it look like something its not. Doesn't feel right. And like you said, its just the appearance. The way i look at it, since its not a Mach 1, im not constrained to the original paint/trim pattern. Thanks for the welcome.
Reply
#12
(10-11-2019, 11:39 PM)Mister 4x4 Wrote: I'm thinking with the precision in which they were slapped on... er... I mean, 'properly installed according to year model factory specs,' that it was probably advertised as such.  Because of course, "All '71-'73 Mustangs are Mach 1s, after all."   Wave

It still amazes me how revered the term 'Mach 1' is - at the end of the day, it's not much more than a trim package with its own VIN body code.

Still a good lookin' car with lots of 'smiles per gallon' potential.

Yea, its crazy how the Mach 1 is so revered. And its true, majority of people see the body of 71-73 Mustang and call it Mach 1. Not too many know in depth. Looks great in my opinion, theyre all beautiful cars. And true, gotta have the gas money to truly enjoy the car.  Thumbup
Reply
#13
(10-11-2019, 11:43 PM)da55 Wrote:
(10-11-2019, 07:24 PM)Mustangmike Wrote: Welcome from CT and congrats on your new ride!  Like JTS indicated the car looks to be in decent condition.  I see a lot of potential with the car.  Out of curiosity and not that it matters but did the seller offer the car as a Mach 1?  

Mike

Yea, the guy sold it as a Mach 1. And yes, i saw the potential in it and jumped on it fast. Other cars i had been hunting for, that were rusted and gutted out, not running were running for 2k plus. I picked this up for 3k and running, good interior and some rust.

You bought it for 3k?  Dang thats good!!  Mine was 17k needing some work, and now I'm wondering if i was ripped off LOL.
Reply
#14
(10-10-2019, 07:00 PM)Oztrailer Wrote: If its a Mach 1 the vin should start 3F05H  Wink
True.  If im not mistaken, doesn't the hood also give it away?  In the picture here the hood is flat.  Don't all mach 1's have the ram air scoop?

-Jonner B
Reply
#15
(10-11-2019, 11:43 PM)da55 Wrote:
(10-11-2019, 07:24 PM)Mustangmike Wrote: Welcome from CT and congrats on your new ride!  Like JTS indicated the car looks to be in decent condition.  I see a lot of potential with the car.  Out of curiosity and not that it matters but did the seller offer the car as a Mach 1?  

Mike

Yea, the guy sold it as a Mach 1. And yes, i saw the potential in it and jumped on it fast. Other cars i had been hunting for, that were rusted and gutted out, not running were running for 2k plus. I picked this up for 3k and running, good interior and some rust.
Hey for that price there is no loss for the false advertising.  Plus, how many people can say they bought a car for $3k AND drove it home too. Good for you!
Reply
#16
(10-12-2019, 07:17 AM)Jonner B Wrote:
(10-10-2019, 07:00 PM)Oztrailer Wrote: If its a Mach 1 the vin should start 3F05H  Wink
True.  If im not mistaken, doesn't the hood also give it away?  In the picture here the hood is flat.  Don't all mach 1's have the ram air scoop?

-Jonner B

I remember there was some discussion about that on another forum, and of course there never really was a definitive answer.  There are some Mach 1s out there with flat hoods, but I think you're right and they were probably special ordered that way.  Again, they're rare and don't pop-up all that often - most all of the Mach 1s I've seen have the NASA hood, whether they have Ram Air or the block-off plates for the non Ram Air cars (keep in mind that the Ram Air cars had the TuTone black-out paint and hood locks standard with the Ram Air package, but those things could also be special ordered separately as well).
Reply
#17
For a basically rust free running and driving Fastback, you got a fairly good deal.  You can use it and fix and restore things along the way and not be saddled with a full restoration before having a running and driving car.  Build it the way you want, for me, I don't think I would go the clone route.  Sometimes clones look good, sometimes they look hacked.


It's simply the third and forth characters in the vin code, 05 that indicates it's a Mach 1 vs. 02 for a Fastback (Sportsroof).  Differences are mostly interior and exterior trim, some mild suspension improvements, i.e. springs and sway bars, and some mild performance improvements.  But, nothing like the suspension and performance improvements the Boss Mustangs came with.  Mach 1 production numbers are typically much lower than for a Fastback or Coupe.  Plus, Mach 1's typically had a harder life than Sportsroof or Coupe Mustangs so fewer survived.  All that adds up to the valuation difference and why true Mach 1's are typically more desirable, aside from the Boss Mustangs.
Reply
#18
(10-12-2019, 07:16 AM)Jonner B Wrote:
(10-11-2019, 11:43 PM)da55 Wrote:
(10-11-2019, 07:24 PM)Mustangmike Wrote: Welcome from CT and congrats on your new ride!  Like JTS indicated the car looks to be in decent condition.  I see a lot of potential with the car.  Out of curiosity and not that it matters but did the seller offer the car as a Mach 1?  

Mike

Yea, the guy sold it as a Mach 1. And yes, i saw the potential in it and jumped on it fast. Other cars i had been hunting for, that were rusted and gutted out, not running were running for 2k plus. I picked this up for 3k and running, good interior and some rust.

You bought it for 3k?  Dang thats good!!  Mine was 17k needing some work, and now I'm wondering if i was ripped off LOL.
Yea man, thanks. I pounced on the deal. And the price at the end isn't as important as how happy you are with your car. Life is too short!
Reply
#19
(10-12-2019, 03:50 PM)1969_Mach1 Wrote: For a basically rust free running and driving Fastback, you got a fairly good deal.  You can use it and fix and restore things along the way and not be saddled with a full restoration before having a running and driving car.  Build it the way you want, for me, I don't think I would go the clone route.  Sometimes clones look good, sometimes they look hacked.


It's simply the third and forth characters in the vin code, 05 that indicates it's a Mach 1 vs. 02 for a Fastback (Sportsroof).  Differences are mostly interior and exterior trim, some mild suspension improvements, i.e. springs and sway bars, and some mild performance improvements.  But, nothing like the suspension and performance improvements the Boss Mustangs came with.  Mach 1 production numbers are typically much lower than for a Fastback or Coupe.  Plus, Mach 1's typically had a harder life than Sportsroof or Coupe Mustangs so fewer survived.  All that adds up to the valuation difference and why true Mach 1's are typically more desirable, aside from the Boss Mustangs.
Thanks for the clarification and valuable information. And you're right, its a good starter, with the resources available today i can make it however i want to. I agree with the Mach clone, im aiming towards giving it it's own look. And there is some rust, trunk through, and some other 4 spots. Looking forward to getting into the work.
Reply
#20
Welcome David,

As has been answered for you - No, you did not buy a Mach 1 but as has also been repeated - no big deal, no big loss.

You have the car (body style) of your dreams so run with what you have and enjoy.  Build it like you want it.

Your fastback only lack a few cosmetic touches to be what the base Mach 1 was from the factory.

Enjoy being here.
Reply


Possibly Related Threads...
Thread Author Replies Views Last Post
  66 Mustang Restoration Mustangmike 266 250,237 12-17-2017, 12:56 AM
Last Post: Mustangmike
  mustang from africa terry 4 6,339 02-09-2015, 03:11 PM
Last Post: Mach1FatherFigure
Video Interested in Gaining Knowledge About The 1972 Mustang Mach 1 evsword 10 14,367 02-05-2015, 01:05 PM
Last Post: 1973MachoUno
  New to the Forum. Long time Mustang owner BlackMachOne 8 10,112 01-21-2015, 10:56 AM
Last Post: Steven Harris
  Introducing my Mustang and me Masol 36 38,661 12-20-2014, 05:17 AM
Last Post: mrmach1
  71 Mustang "M" code 71mach 5 8,161 10-21-2014, 09:47 AM
Last Post: keith1562
  Took 60 Years To Buy My First Mustang! 1969 MACH 1 7 9,000 10-21-2014, 09:35 AM
Last Post: keith1562
  Mustang Lover From Tennessee liv2run 5 6,970 04-21-2014, 12:48 AM
Last Post: Steven Harris
  New Member - Mustang Mach 1 annastaciamarie 2 5,995 09-24-2013, 06:34 AM
Last Post: BLACK JADE 69
  1973 rebuild mustang fanatic lichtyr 3 6,286 09-20-2013, 12:00 AM
Last Post: Victor.Gorea

Forum Jump:


Users browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)
[-]
Latest Threads
Cam Specs
Last Post: 1969_Mach1
11-12-2019 09:23 AM
» Replies: 1
» Views: 339
Cylinder lube for a long time stored mot...
Last Post: Mister 4x4
11-10-2019 11:26 AM
» Replies: 6
» Views: 796
Been Awhile... '71 Rustang
Last Post: Mister 4x4
11-10-2019 11:12 AM
» Replies: 165
» Views: 156050
Great color combo!
Last Post: JTS71 Mach1
11-10-2019 10:49 AM
» Replies: 4
» Views: 4047
Brazing/Soldering a Brass Radiator
Last Post: 1969_Mach1
11-09-2019 03:15 AM
» Replies: 4
» Views: 207
428 CJ Commemorative coins
Last Post: Steven Harris
11-08-2019 03:29 PM
» Replies: 3
» Views: 112
transmission identification
Last Post: JTS71 Mach1
11-04-2019 09:20 AM
» Replies: 4
» Views: 5155
Kit Sullivan - RIP
Last Post: JTS71 Mach1
10-31-2019 07:37 AM
» Replies: 2
» Views: 269
Manual Trans Gear Oil
Last Post: 1969_Mach1
10-29-2019 07:18 AM
» Replies: 14
» Views: 6678
Perspective
Last Post: Steven Harris
10-22-2019 02:15 PM
» Replies: 3
» Views: 461
The Donkey
Last Post: JTS71 Mach1
10-21-2019 02:56 AM
» Replies: 0
» Views: 206
Presentation
Last Post: JTS71 Mach1
10-20-2019 08:59 AM
» Replies: 9
» Views: 769
"Jacobra"
Last Post: Steven Harris
10-19-2019 12:48 PM
» Replies: 74
» Views: 47004
Seeing the finish line.
Last Post: Steven Harris
10-19-2019 12:38 PM
» Replies: 9
» Views: 717
1971 Mach-1 - Sell or finish?
Last Post: CCinPA
10-19-2019 01:32 AM
» Replies: 31
» Views: 2831
First Show
Last Post: BLACK JADE 69
10-19-2019 01:14 AM
» Replies: 8
» Views: 572
Hens tooth (73 Urethane bumper)
Last Post: Steven Harris
10-18-2019 02:05 PM
» Replies: 5
» Views: 726
66 Fairlane Project
Last Post: Steven Harris
10-18-2019 01:33 PM
» Replies: 595
» Views: 280982
Identifying Motor
Last Post: Steven Harris
10-18-2019 01:28 PM
» Replies: 2
» Views: 868
73 Mustang Noob
Last Post: Steven Harris
10-18-2019 01:15 PM
» Replies: 19
» Views: 1511

>