66 Fairlane Project
Yeah by the time most people notice the gauges dropping, they are already well on there way to blowing it up! LOL!!! To use gauges, you have to look at gauges. That's pretty hard to do, when you dropped the clutch at 4 grand, spun the tires pretty hard, nailed second, and left the Camaro behind you fading into the distance. If something went south, you'd never know it. That is until till it went Knock Knock Knock! All you could think was, I got to beat that Camaro! Ask me how I know???  Cool  

JTS
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(12-24-2018, 10:18 AM)Mustangmike Wrote:
(12-24-2018, 03:20 AM)JTS71 Mach1 Wrote: Man there ain't nothin more period correct, then a set of triple gauges hanging from the dash!!!

Looks Good!  Thumbup

JTS

Thanks JTS...looking forward to having them in the car.  At least I will have some indication of the vital signs.

That's true.  That's the way they were always mounted back in the 60's and 70's.  But I will say, I have been there with that type of setup and they are soooooooooo far out of your field of vision, that while driving you will rarely ever look at them.  Make certain you keep the instrument cluster warning lights connected as well, you'll notice those before something odd with the gauges.
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(12-25-2018, 06:28 AM)1969_Mach1 Wrote:
(12-24-2018, 10:18 AM)Mustangmike Wrote:
(12-24-2018, 03:20 AM)JTS71 Mach1 Wrote: Man there ain't nothin more period correct, then a set of triple gauges hanging from the dash!!!

Looks Good!  Thumbup

JTS

Thanks JTS...looking forward to having them in the car.  At least I will have some indication of the vital signs.

That's true.  That's the way they were always mounted back in the 60's and 70's.  But I will say, I have been there with that type of setup and they are soooooooooo far out of your field of vision, that while driving you will rarely ever look at them.  Make certain you keep the instrument cluster warning lights connected as well, you'll notice those before something odd with the gauges.

Actually these gauges are 2 5/8th inches so they are pretty easy to read.  But I agree they do take your eyes off the road.  I usually only find it necessary to look at gauges when I start the car to make sure there is oil pressure and at stop lights to see if everything seems normal.  Other than that no need to look at them. So they are less of a distraction than texting. 

A friend of mine dropped the seed of paranoia in me with an Amp Meter.  This is the same friend who got me worried about using a glass fuel filter.  I told this to my other friend, who I truly trust, and he told me to tell the guy "stop giving himself bad advice".  I thought that was kind of funny.  After all this is the same guy who bought a car that didn't look underneath it and took the seller's word at face value.  Notallthere

With that said I am using stay with the amp meter and forgetting about the volt meter.  Both kind of do the same thing but in different way.
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Funny, I would throw that glass fuel filter in the garbage can.  I've seen them leak.  Then you might be on the side of the road trying to put out a fire.  I agree with the guy that says get rid of the glass fuel filter.  If you want a simple in line fuel filter get a Wix all metal filter, p/n 33033.  It has fittings for 3/8" hose.  It's not as flashy, but reliable.

If the ammeter is the type that is in series with the charging system wire, I would opt for a volt meter.  I really wouldn't want all that amperage passing through a gauge?  But that's me.

You tend to only follow the advise of the friend that shares your same thoughts.  Just saying, is that always the best path . . . I don't know?
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(12-25-2018, 11:48 AM)1969_Mach1 Wrote: Funny, I would throw that glass fuel filter in the garbage can.  I've seen them leak.  Then you might be on the side of the road trying to put out a fire.  I agree with the guy that says get rid of the glass fuel filter.  If you want a simple in line fuel filter get a Wix all metal filter, p/n 33033.  It has fittings for 3/8" hose.  It's not as flashy, but reliable.

If the ammeter is the type that is in series with the charging system wire, I would opt for a volt meter.  I really wouldn't want all that amperage passing through a gauge?  But that's me.

You tend to only follow the advise of the friend that shares your same thoughts.  Just saying, is that always the best path . . . I don't know?

Thanks for the advise.  I am surprised they actually sell glass gas filters and ammeters if they are that dangerous.  oh well, Merry Xmas!
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(12-25-2018, 11:48 AM)1969_Mach1 Wrote: Funny, I would throw that glass fuel filter in the garbage can.  I've seen them leak.  Then you might be on the side of the road trying to put out a fire.  I agree with the guy that says get rid of the glass fuel filter.  If you want a simple in line fuel filter get a Wix all metal filter, p/n 33033.  It has fittings for 3/8" hose.  It's not as flashy, but reliable.

If the ammeter is the type that is in series with the charging system wire, I would opt for a volt meter.  I really wouldn't want all that amperage passing through a gauge?  But that's me.

You tend to only follow the advise of the friend that shares your same thoughts.  Just saying, is that always the best path . . . I don't know?

Thanks for the advise.  I am surprised they actually manufacture and sell glass gas filters and ammeters if there dangerous.  Oh well, have a Merry Xmas!
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Stock ammeters in Fords, up to about 1967, were that type wired in series with the charging system wire.  So full charging amperage went through the ammeter and it was powered all the time.  There were issues with electrical fires when the ammeter would fail.  Starting in I think 1967 Ford went to what is called a shunt type ammeter.  I don't know how it works, but it's not in series with the charging system wire and the charging amperage doesn't pass through it.  The shunt type is safer, when it fails there is no electrical fire.  And when the ignition switch is shut off there is no power through it.

I don't know why the aftermarket would sell the older type ammeters.  Other than they are easier to connect.  They work, but are not as safe as a shunt type.  With that said, I don't know why aftermarket sells a lot of stuff.

You have to look at the instructions for your ammeter.  If it indicates to wire it in series with the charging system wire from the alternator, then it is not a shunt type and not as safe.
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(12-26-2018, 07:17 AM)1969_Mach1 Wrote: Stock ammeters in Fords, up to about 1967, were that type wired in series with the charging system wire.  So full charging amperage went through the ammeter and it was powered all the time.  There were issues with electrical fires when the ammeter would fail.  Starting in I think 1967 Ford went to what is called a shunt type ammeter.  I don't know how it works, but it's not in series with the charging system wire and the charging amperage doesn't pass through it.  The shunt type is safer, when it fails there is no electrical fire.  And when the ignition switch is shut off there is no power through it.

I don't know why the aftermarket would sell the older type ammeters.  Other than they are easier to connect.  They work, but are not as safe as a shunt type.  With that said, I don't know why aftermarket sells a lot of stuff.

You have to look at the instructions for your ammeter.  If it indicates to wire it in series with the charging system wire from the alternator, then it is not a shunt type and not as safe.

My friend's brother who is my electrical go to guy and who has restored both of my wiring harnesses in my cars indicated this gauge has an internal shunt.  In the event of an overload the gauge acts like the fuse. He said my car would be dead if I tried to restart it but I should get away with bypassing the amp gauge and everything should work again.  He did mention it is important the gauge is wired correctly and not to the starter side of the solenoid. Plus any soldering and connections must be checked for hot spots before driving off. If I wire it correctly there should be absolutely no problem with running this gauge. He actually would prefer a digital ammeter because it reads more accurately but he knows it would look out of place in the car.

I bought my first Mustang from these guys and developed a friendship. They actually offered to help me come over and help me the welding and other things that needed to be done on the car. At that time I never welded or even owned a welder. Since then I restored my Fastback and Fairlane so I respect these guys mechanical abilities and capabilities. After all, they taught an accountant how to restore cars. Who would guess!
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Very nice Mike.

The additions go well with the overall look.

My advice - never mind - your doing a great job on your own!
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