Led lights not all that good.
#11
I must be old school.  I still prefer the warmer glow of incandescent bulbs.
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#12
I got to agree with you. I much prefer them over LED's, even the good ones. I still like the incandescent bulbs best. 
JTS
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#13
If it's worth anything, I pulled my wiring harnesses on both of my cars and had my friend go through them with a fine tooth comb repairing, replacing and cleaning all the connections.  End result is all my lights, interior and exterior are amazingly bright.  I know LED's have a brighter appearance to them but the incandescent lights work well with clean connections, good grounds and a properly working charging system.
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#14
I'll admit, the instrument panel lights in a 1969 Mustang are not very bright.  Even with good wiring, clean connections, and new printed circuit panel, lenses and bulb covers.  I still prefer it over LED's.  It's another reminder that it's an old car and that's how they were.
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(11-13-2018, 10:31 AM)1969_Mach1 Wrote: I'll admit, the instrument panel lights in a 1969 Mustang are not very bright.  Even with good wiring, clean connections, and new printed circuit panel, lenses and bulb covers.  I still prefer it over LED's.  It's another reminder that it's an old car and that's how they were.

I am judging my light illumination based on the period of the car.  Maybe the obvious difference is now we take out our 50 year old classic car then hop into and drive away in a late model car that has the brightly colored LED cluster display then realize comparatively our classic car dash cluster barely illuminates.  But back in the day we never said "I wish my dash cluster illumination was brighter".  Like you said Mike, it was how they were plus we had nothing to compare them to at the time.

No argument a thorough run through of the entire electrical system and a good charging system will contribute to the brightness of your lights as well as the operation of other components relying on 12 volts.
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(11-13-2018, 08:25 PM)Mustangmike Wrote:
(11-13-2018, 10:31 AM)1969_Mach1 Wrote: I'll admit, the instrument panel lights in a 1969 Mustang are not very bright.  Even with good wiring, clean connections, and new printed circuit panel, lenses and bulb covers.  I still prefer it over LED's.  It's another reminder that it's an old car and that's how they were.

I am judging my light illumination based on the period of the car.  Maybe the obvious difference is now we take out our 50 year old classic car then hop into and drive away in a late model car that has the brightly colored LED cluster display then realize comparatively our classic car dash cluster barely illuminates.  But back in the day we never said "I wish my dash cluster illumination was brighter".  Like you said Mike, it was how they were plus we had nothing to compare them to at the time.

No argument a thorough run through of the entire electrical system and a good charging system will contribute to the brightness of your lights as well as the operation of other components relying on 12 volts.

 
 
I am new here but not new to life. My 1970 Mustang convertible is from the year I graduated from High School. My 1972 Mach1 is a sweet ride as well. In their day they were somewhat cutting edge rides but mainly they had style and lines we cannot find now and have not seen for decades. I also love the earlier Mustangs but at the time these were my options. I own these two because of their style, room to work on them, general simplicity of construction and ease of repair and modifications. Most of all though is the mental state they place me in when I gaze at them all cleaned up, running top notch, full of gas and a warm summer day is waiting for us to go for a ride. I am also a retired professional mechanic and automotive business owner/operator.
Some people say those were the good old days and that can and cannot be true in total. Let me explain. Let us start with tires. Back then tires were cutting edge but now fall far short of what all of us can install on our old rides. Same for exterior paint quality and duration not to mention modern paints do shine much better. Engine tolerances and the metallurgy were sub-standard back then to what we have today to rebuild these old rides. Better head designs, intake manifolds, ignition systems, coil quality and a bunch more under the hood is far better than back in the day. Yet the style and lines of current vehicles can never match what we had back then. Suspension options are better now than then. Head lights and options are by far better now than then. Glass is better. Quality carpet is better. Sound systems are by far better. The list goes on.
Back lighting gauges can be improved and can be made easier to see in the dark. But taste and nostalgia always plays into it. Accepting change and improvement is always a challenge for the previous generations and always will be. I am no exception. However as one who made a very successful career out of working on automobiles and running a business I can say staying current with improvements in vehicles effects quality control and the life span of the work done and customer satisfaction. Being willing to improve the safety and dependability of a vehicle is top shelf for me even in my old rides. I know this when I am out running my old rides hard on a empty country road I always think I would really hate to have something break and end up in a huge wreck in this old sled. Just a seat belt, solid steering column, no shoulder straps, no air bags and more has a real tendency to not push these old rides very hard.
My 1970 has more horsepower than any Boss ever dreamed of back in that day and it has been up graded to handle it better but regardless it is still old school. I like to smoke tires with my posi-loc, I love by mirror shaking radical cam lope and custom built stroker 302. The guttural exhaust through the headers and huge pipes and the fact it gets a thumbs up going down the road and at intersections every day. But it is still old school. The lines are fantastic, the look with modern Grabber Blue is great, the chin scoop, hood scoop, trunk wing, Boss stripping, blacked out grill all set it apart big time. Heck even the cops ask me to trade rides with them. Still it is a summer fair weather ride and is asleep now under the cover as we have snow on the ground. It is a summer dream, a flash back into my youth, both Mustangs help me stay young in thought and in life. I thank them for that opportunity.
 
 In the end though my blue LED dash lights and courtesy lights are a huge improvement over what I took out of the dash as I went through it. I can see the information much better with my older eyes which means less time off the road which means safer. The blue adds warmth and is not harsh yet is clear clean lighting which is an upgrade over the older back lighting which took me longer to see the information I was looking for. In short I can see my old school gauges better in the dark ;-). To each his own in life but one thing I do know I am not a purest. I will change with improvements and that crosses over to many other things in life to. The good old days were often very good yet on the other hand we really need to be honest about the rest of it.
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#17
Has anybody mentioned WE LIKE PICS!!!  Sounds like a great car let us have a look. Just saying. 

JTS
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#18
(11-14-2018, 03:46 AM)JTS71 Mach1 Wrote: Has anybody mentioned WE LIKE PICS!!!  Sounds like a great car let us have a look. Just saying. 

JTS

I do need to load up the 1970 convertible and will do so soon. The 1972 Red Mach1  is on my lift being worked on as a winter project. I hope to get some more current pics after the snow melts off. Thank you for mentioning it. On the other hand I am still looking for pics of the 71-73 fold down rear seat correctly installed up and down.
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#19
I don't quite understand that long post comparing todays cars to older cars of the late 60's and early 70's.  We all know technology has changed in vehicles over the years.  For the better or for the worse, I don't know.  I'd say some are an improvement and some is a waste of the manufacturers resources and only adds to the cost of the vehicle.  And car mfg's wonder why their sales are on a downward trend.  It's not that todays cars last longer so they are replaced less frequently.  They contribute it to todays cars lasting longer.  But in my opinion it's because very few can afford to pay for all the garbage high tech features that get put into todays new cars.  As far as body lines.  Today's cars will never look like those of the past.  Wind tunnel testing to minimize drag forces from air flow over and under the vehicle have a large influence on the final body lines of today's vehicles.
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(11-14-2018, 04:34 AM)1969_Mach1 Wrote: I don't quite understand that long post comparing todays cars to older cars of the late 60's and early 70's.  We all know technology has changed in vehicles over the years.  For the better or for the worse, I don't know.  I'd say some are an improvement and some is a waste of the manufacturers resources and only adds to the cost of the vehicle.  And car mfg's wonder why their sales are on a downward trend.  It's not that todays cars last longer so they are replaced less frequently.  They contribute it to todays cars lasting longer.  But in my opinion it's because very few can afford to pay for all the garbage high tech features that get put into todays new cars.  As far as body lines.  Today's cars will never look like those of the past.  Wind tunnel testing to minimize drag forces from air flow over and under the vehicle have a large influence on the final body lines of today's vehicles.

Not so much the cars of today compared to the past other than outwards lines.   More like there are so many improvements available which enhance the older vehicles or simple out preform the older technology. Lighting is one of those things which have come a long way and for the better to. Sure it is applied to current cars but that is not my point. Some people hold on to the past when they should let it go. I know this. If the current upgrade options were available to me in High School I sure would not have purchased the stuff I did back then.
I can light up the back country roads I live on to see deer, elk and more so much better than in High School it is not even a point of discussion. I placed hidden LED light bars in my 1970 Mustang and Hella H4 head lamps with 90 watt bulbs. We drive it home after dark at times and that helps to save the front end from mass destruction.  Modern improvements without changing the look and style.
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